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the sole questioner tonight is jim lehrer. it's the 12th time he's served as moderator. >> lehrer: good evening. from the magnus arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs newshour and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former massachusetts governor romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three-- two presidential, one vice presidential-- are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question. then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means but i made the final selections and, for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i an
the sole questioner tonight is jim lehrer. it's the 12th time he's served as moderator. >> lehrer: good evening. from the magnus arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs newshour and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former massachusetts governor romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three-- two presidential, one vice presidential-- are sponsored...
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i am not jim lehrer. allow me. please. i am not barack obama. >> he clearly has control. >> the fact is, the some jobs number will not make a difference. the difference will be what barack obama does in the next half for the next two rounds that he has. it was a very poor performance. you have to give credit to mitt romney who was on his game. some of what you said very is the truth, but that is neither here nor there. >> on jobs, when the economy -- president said the economy created 5 million jobs, is that true? >> i do not know. these numbers are so squishy, it is not 100% clear to me who is right about jobs. when i know is what they were saying on friday morning when they released those numbers. for the first time, more people who were out of the work force were getting jobs, and that is news. >> it is also import to keep in mind who has been hard hit by the economy. largely younger americans, african-americans, and hispanics. either those who would not vote or are supporting president obama. so i think you have got a
i am not jim lehrer. allow me. please. i am not barack obama. >> he clearly has control. >> the fact is, the some jobs number will not make a difference. the difference will be what barack obama does in the next half for the next two rounds that he has. it was a very poor performance. you have to give credit to mitt romney who was on his game. some of what you said very is the truth, but that is neither here nor there. >> on jobs, when the economy -- president said the economy...
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the criticism of jim lehrer is off base. i noticed in the debate from top to time, obama weblog to him as if to say, help me, jim. that was not jim lehrer's role. >> in that case, the candidates should simply ask each other questions. >> let me ask you about donna brown states. as of friday, realclearpolitics average, obama, 7.6 in watching -- wisconsin been in pennsylvania, 10. new hampshire, six. ohio, 5.5. virginia, 3.5. will those numbers change? >> i think he was a tightening of the race. certainly, florida and virginia will be competitive. the problem is ohio. no republican has ever won the white house without winning ohio. there is a path to do it, but it is so narrow to get to 270 without ohio. he has a class problem in ohio. it is hard for him to relate to working-class voters there, who by the way, are not thrilled about obama, but as mike huckabee said, romney reminds them of the guy that fire them. that is a problem. >> if you look at the day-by-day poll, the post-debate members, each category, with the governmen
the criticism of jim lehrer is off base. i noticed in the debate from top to time, obama weblog to him as if to say, help me, jim. that was not jim lehrer's role. >> in that case, the candidates should simply ask each other questions. >> let me ask you about donna brown states. as of friday, realclearpolitics average, obama, 7.6 in watching -- wisconsin been in pennsylvania, 10. new hampshire, six. ohio, 5.5. virginia, 3.5. will those numbers change? >> i think he was a...
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thank you, jim. >> thank you, mr. president. the next debate, the vice presidential event on thursday, october 11th at center college in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you, and g
thank you, jim. >> thank you, mr. president. the next debate, the vice presidential event on thursday, october 11th at center college in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you, and g
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maybe jim lehrer. format i love. much more demanding on jim but better for us. >> ifill: we're looking forward to what jim has to say tonight. it's a big night and we'll go to the convention hall and hoar from our own jim lehrer. >> lehrer: good evening, from the ma nag mess arena in colora. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican. nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions have a the internet and other means, but i made the final selections, and for the record, they
maybe jim lehrer. format i love. much more demanding on jim but better for us. >> ifill: we're looking forward to what jim has to say tonight. it's a big night and we'll go to the convention hall and hoar from our own jim lehrer. >> lehrer: good evening, from the ma nag mess arena in colora. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican. nominee. this...
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president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary, and a year from now, we won't celebrate it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost, the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system had frozen up, and because of theo resilience and determinatin of the american people, we've begun to fight our way back. over the last 30 months, we've seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created. the auto industry has come roaring back and housing has begun to rise. but we all know that we still have a lot of work to do. and so the question here tonight is not where we've been, but where we're going. governor romney has a perspective that says
president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary, and a year from now, we won't celebrate it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial...
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for now, from the university of denver i'm jim lehrer. thank you and good night. [ cheers and applause ] >> cenk: there you have it the first presidential debate of 2012. i have a feeling we have mixed feelings about how that debate went. of course you have to keep in mind we'll be discussing tactics here. we know all of the policies and facts that go behind us. some of the viewers might be experiencing those policies in substance for the first time and they might have a different take. now on to the tactics and how it appears, vice president gore? >> al gore: i said before the debate that i thought that romney was going to be a better performer tonight, because he knows how far behind he is and he had to bring his a game and i think he did. i don't think it was the best debate performance for president obama. i agree with you we'll have to see how the specifics on the substantive issues settle in as people reflect on them. but the first visceral reaction i had was that romney did himself some good in this debate. i'm strongly supporting
for now, from the university of denver i'm jim lehrer. thank you and good night. [ cheers and applause ] >> cenk: there you have it the first presidential debate of 2012. i have a feeling we have mixed feelings about how that debate went. of course you have to keep in mind we'll be discussing tactics here. we know all of the policies and facts that go behind us. some of the viewers might be experiencing those policies in substance for the first time and they might have a different take....
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. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs, moderating this debate. >> jim: i'm jim lehrer. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates, between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice-presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments, with two-minute answers for the first question. then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means. but i made the final selections. and for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advance, will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the role of government and governing, with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics a
. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs, moderating this debate. >> jim: i'm jim lehrer. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates, between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice-presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by...
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thank you, jim. >> jim: thank you, governor. thank you, mr. president. the next debate will be the vice-presidential event on thursday, october 11 at center o'clock in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer. thank you and gbts. ooh thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] did >> 90 minutes later. it was a robust debate, in the team jerseys, governor rom flee in the reds tie, president obama in the blue. romney landing a number of job jabs on everything from debt and jobs and the economy to health care, to his green energy program, saying, americans, republican and democrat need leadership and he's prepared to provide it. the president, keeping his cool, said to be a challenge for him tonight, saying that leadership requires more than lofty goals trequires specifics and he didn't hear them from the governor. it was interesting to see mitt romney looking mostly over at president obama when he was making his point and president obama choosing to look at jim lehrer or looking down. what message do the viewers pick u
thank you, jim. >> jim: thank you, governor. thank you, mr. president. the next debate will be the vice-presidential event on thursday, october 11 at center o'clock in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer. thank you and gbts. ooh thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] did >> 90 minutes later. it was a robust debate, in the team jerseys, governor rom flee in the reds tie, president obama in the blue. romney landing a number of job jabs...
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one. >> jim: let's not. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd frank and what the governor just said. >> i think this is a great example. the reason we have been in such an enormous economic crisis was prompted by reckless behavior across the board. now twasn't just on wall street. you had loan officers that were giving loans and mortgages that really shouldn't have been given bos because the folks didn't qualify. hupeople borrowing money to buy a house they couldn't afford. hucredit agencies stamping these as a-1 great investments when they weren't. but you also had banks making money hand over fist, churning out products that the bankers themselves didn't even understand, in order to make big profits, but knowing that it made the entire system vulnerable. so what did we do? we stepped in and had at this time toughest reforms on wall street since the 1930s. we said, banks, you have to raise your capital requirements. you can't engage in the rinky behavior that is putting main street at risk. we are
one. >> jim: let's not. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd frank and what the governor just said. >> i think this is a great example. the reason we have been in such an enormous economic crisis was prompted by reckless behavior across the board. now twasn't just on wall street. you had loan officers that were giving loans and mortgages that really shouldn't have been given bos because the folks didn't qualify. hupeople borrowing money to buy a house they couldn't afford....
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tell me how you're going to cut taxes. >> i think jim lehrer will press on this. i think he'll say what loopholes are you going to close? what tax benefits are you going to take away in? what cuts are you going to make in thing like pell grants. i don't know exactly how he will do it but i think he'll press on that. he prides himself on being substantive, on understanding these issues, and feeling the purpose of a presidential debate is to get these guys out of their stump speeches and into a real conversation with each other and with the american people. >> well, that's what we all try to do in this business. i think everybody i know tries to do that. get the person off the memorized material, because we're so bored with that. we don't think it teaches anything. you had a point about behavior, body language and smiling. i was taken with your idea that you smile too much, it looks like a smirk. have you to hold your smile to what's funny, how about that use of the smile, when something's really funny? >> the smile -- look, there's this is no problem for the presid
tell me how you're going to cut taxes. >> i think jim lehrer will press on this. i think he'll say what loopholes are you going to close? what tax benefits are you going to take away in? what cuts are you going to make in thing like pell grants. i don't know exactly how he will do it but i think he'll press on that. he prides himself on being substantive, on understanding these issues, and feeling the purpose of a presidential debate is to get these guys out of their stump speeches and...
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>> i don't think jim lehrer needs to. >> okay. the knockout blow. are we going to see it when we hear? >> i think you will. the people in the hall missed it during the infamous gore debate because we didn't hear the sign. if you have that awkward moment and people jump back, that's the sort of thing that can change the trajectory. >> mark, your thoughts. processing answers, like bob bowl when he says that bill is a markup. >> exactly. i can get this out of conference. we can go forward. i think that a lot of the discourse in politics and in debates can be about process, about who's got a plan or why you've done a certain thing. often one candidate will try to accuse another. the think the winner is the one who sticks to, what do the american people care about? how to specific the economy and don't get bogged down in the process. it's easy to flip. >> do you think it's a problem -- you talk about being optimistic. these guys are used to throwing red meat out, getting nurtured. the rules are -- there is no noise, no reaction. so you throw out what you
>> i don't think jim lehrer needs to. >> okay. the knockout blow. are we going to see it when we hear? >> i think you will. the people in the hall missed it during the infamous gore debate because we didn't hear the sign. if you have that awkward moment and people jump back, that's the sort of thing that can change the trajectory. >> mark, your thoughts. processing answers, like bob bowl when he says that bill is a markup. >> exactly. i can get this out of...
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you got jim lehrer's seat, the two questions in front of you -- two candidates right in front of you. what is the one question that you think would you most like to see jim lehrer ask one of these candidates tonight? >> i would focus on mitt romney because this really is it for mitt. i would go right at the central concern. i would say i would ask, governor, bain capital, which you helped to run, had many successes but it also had many failures. the bering company, the typewriter company, name a list of them. have you ever met, have you ever talked to, do you note names of or anything about the lives of any of the people from those plants that closed as a result of the investments of bain cap signal give me a name, give me a story. >> probably knows the ones the obama campaign ads have mentioned, right? >> probably knows those but those aren't the ones he wants to mention. >> probably doesn't want to bring them up. >> no, probably no. >> no amazing the degree which bain has been a problem for romney. figure this is coming up one way or another, if not from lehrer, certainly obama. i w
you got jim lehrer's seat, the two questions in front of you -- two candidates right in front of you. what is the one question that you think would you most like to see jim lehrer ask one of these candidates tonight? >> i would focus on mitt romney because this really is it for mitt. i would go right at the central concern. i would say i would ask, governor, bain capital, which you helped to run, had many successes but it also had many failures. the bering company, the typewriter company,...
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jim lehrer's book on the debate includes the panelists, including you discussed bernie's question in the greenroom and there was concern among your group about asking that question. what was the feeling then? >> the feeling was, you saw three women, ann compton, margaret warner, myself and bernie. bernie had one question to ask as the moderator and we each got two and the format was tight and controlled and had a feeling we were sharing notes because we cannot didn't want to repeat each other because there would be no opportunity to follow up. this is what he said he would ask. think back, 1988, people didn't can those questions and we looked coiled and maybe it's gender, do you really want to ask that about kitty dukakis and bring her in the campaign? he said yes. jim lehrer reports it correctly, we said do you really want to do that and he pushed back independently -- >> you know how bernard is. >> the thought is that's the only thing anybody remembered. i asked about the budget and about the nuclear triad and bernie asked the question that got the response that showed michael duka
jim lehrer's book on the debate includes the panelists, including you discussed bernie's question in the greenroom and there was concern among your group about asking that question. what was the feeling then? >> the feeling was, you saw three women, ann compton, margaret warner, myself and bernie. bernie had one question to ask as the moderator and we each got two and the format was tight and controlled and had a feeling we were sharing notes because we cannot didn't want to repeat each...
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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs, i love big bird, i actually like you to. but i'm not going to keep spending money on things, borrowing money from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs that are currently good programs but i think will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine some agencies into departments. my cutbacks will be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he'd cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. $1 trillion deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a $1 trillion deficit greeting me. and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid f
i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs, i love big bird, i actually like you to. but i'm not going to keep spending money on things, borrowing money from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs that are currently good programs but i think will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine some agencies into departments. my...
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this is about romney and big bird. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs. i love big bird. actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money and borrowing money from china to pay for it, no. 1. >> is that harsh? >> it's harsh when we're focusing on big bird. but romney's point was that too much of our debt has been accumulated by china and other countries as well. what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when george w. bush was president as well. but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've
this is about romney and big bird. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs. i love big bird. actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money and borrowing money from china to pay for it, no. 1. >> is that harsh? >> it's harsh when we're focusing on big bird. but romney's point was that too much of our debt has been accumulated by china and other countries as well. what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when...
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so imagine jim lehrer that in debate hall. he can't cut anybody's microphone and he's dealing with the president of the united states and another guy who is gutsy enough to try and take the job. and he's supposed to control these guys and do that in an untested format designed to be loose and open-ended and sort of free flowing? shoot, i don't care what the critics say, jim lehrer did what any moderator would have done in that situation. the best he could. anita. >> thank you, derek. >>> rats, roaches, mice, you name it, we've got it in tonight's food alert. just wait until you see what our cameras found inside a restaurant that claimed hat cleaned up. from dupont circle to bethesda and into arlington, here's investigative reporter russ ptacek. >> reporter: instinctively we know roaches are wrong, right? food safety managers are required in restaurants because they're trained to watch out for other risks like food in the temperature danger zone, that's cold food above 41 degrees or heated food falling below 1406789 it's not ro
so imagine jim lehrer that in debate hall. he can't cut anybody's microphone and he's dealing with the president of the united states and another guy who is gutsy enough to try and take the job. and he's supposed to control these guys and do that in an untested format designed to be loose and open-ended and sort of free flowing? shoot, i don't care what the critics say, jim lehrer did what any moderator would have done in that situation. the best he could. anita. >> thank you, derek....
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look what he did to jim lehrer. >> he bullied. >> jim lehrer got his hair cut last night. >> look at his demeanor. the whole -- i think it was clear to me that the president -- they went in there with a lot of confidence. they played not to lose. they also played -- he overcorrected to the downside. i have to believe the campaign is surprised. >> what happens in football and basketball when you have a big lead and play not to lose the lead? you lose the lead. >> here's the thing. i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky.
look what he did to jim lehrer. >> he bullied. >> jim lehrer got his hair cut last night. >> look at his demeanor. the whole -- i think it was clear to me that the president -- they went in there with a lot of confidence. they played not to lose. they also played -- he overcorrected to the downside. i have to believe the campaign is surprised. >> what happens in football and basketball when you have a big lead and play not to lose the lead? you lose the lead. >>...
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there were also some questions about the moderator jim lehrer. watch this. >> governor romney do you have a question you would like to ask the directly. >> the president began the segment so i think i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> is there a specific -- >> let me mention the other one -- >> no, let's not. >> before. >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before you interrupted me was -- >> i sometimes wondered if we even needed a moderator ba we had mitt romney. we should rethink that for the next debate. >> joining us now two journalists from the website daily download.com. he said this in defending himself. let me start with you. he said, part of my moderator mission was to stay out of the way of the flow and i had no problems with doing so. my only real personal frustration was discovering was not enough time in that more open format to cover every issue that deserved attention. what do you think of the criticism he's been getting. >> let's just talk about what was on twitter. that let's not com
there were also some questions about the moderator jim lehrer. watch this. >> governor romney do you have a question you would like to ask the directly. >> the president began the segment so i think i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> is there a specific -- >> let me mention the other one -- >> no, let's not. >> before. >> two minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before you interrupted me was --...
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two minutes. >> thank you, jim. honor to be here with you and i appreciate the chance to be the president. pleased to be at the university of denver, appreciate their welcome and also the presidential ghicommission. congratulations to you,mr. president, on your anniversary. this is the most romantic thing you would imagine, being here with me. congratulations. this obviously a very tender topic. i've had the occasion over the last couple of years of meeting with people across the country. i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arm, she said, i've been out of work since may, can you help me? and yesterday, at a rally in denver and a woman came up to me with a baby in her arms, said, ann, my husband has had four jobs in three years, part-time jobs, he's lost his most recent job. and we've now just lost our home. can you help us? and the answer is yes. we can help. but it's going to take a different path. not the one we've been on. not the one the president describes as a top down cut taxes for the rich, that's
two minutes. >> thank you, jim. honor to be here with you and i appreciate the chance to be the president. pleased to be at the university of denver, appreciate their welcome and also the presidential ghicommission. congratulations to you,mr. president, on your anniversary. this is the most romantic thing you would imagine, being here with me. congratulations. this obviously a very tender topic. i've had the occasion over the last couple of years of meeting with people across the country....
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president obama wilted whenever -- >> greta: but they plameed jim lehrer. >> jim lehrer did exactly what he said it was -- he wassing did to do. he is know a new person. we know how he moderates debates. the commission is made of republicans and democrats, they picked jim lehrer, he asked non-confrontational, non-gotcha questions. believe me, if the president had snappy responses and brought up bain capital and 47% and the things that made the democrats happy, they would not be complaining about jim lehrer today. >> they want to have a scapegoat. they want to blame something for president obama's debate performance. jim lehrer happens to be it. i think he did almost as good a job as i think one could do. the job of the moderator is to make sure that the candidates engage one another and engage with substance. when that's happening, you need to melt into the background -- i >> greta: stay invisible. >> that's exactly what he dirks as long as the issues are being discussed, you are invisible and you try to give equal time. president obama got 4 more minutes of talk time than governor romne
president obama wilted whenever -- >> greta: but they plameed jim lehrer. >> jim lehrer did exactly what he said it was -- he wassing did to do. he is know a new person. we know how he moderates debates. the commission is made of republicans and democrats, they picked jim lehrer, he asked non-confrontational, non-gotcha questions. believe me, if the president had snappy responses and brought up bain capital and 47% and the things that made the democrats happy, they would not be...
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thank you, jim. >> jim: thank you, governor. thank you, mr. president. the next debate will be the vice-presidential event on thursday, october 11 at center o'clock in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer. thank you and gbts. ooh thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] did >> 90 minutes later. it was a robust debate, in the team jerseys, governor rom f >>> president obama in the blue. t romney landing a number of jabs on the president from everything from debt and jobs his green g economy toealt energy program and saying, americans republican and and democrat need leadership and he is prepared to provide it.ovid the president keeping his cool which was said by the punditsbe to be one of the challenges for him tonight and saying leadership requires more than just lofty goals, it requires specifics and he didn't see see them from the governor. mitt romney looking mostly oh he veronica moser at president at president obama when making his points and president obama be looking mostly at jim lehrer or looking down
thank you, jim. >> jim: thank you, governor. thank you, mr. president. the next debate will be the vice-presidential event on thursday, october 11 at center o'clock in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer. thank you and gbts. ooh thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] did >> 90 minutes later. it was a robust debate, in the team jerseys, governor rom f >>> president obama in the blue. t romney landing a number of jabs on the...